Wilderness Grinders

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  1. MMorris14

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    tf is this update...

    I mean I don't use spawners, but this is once again encouraging p2w. It is obvious and known that factions are more likely to invite if you have a rank and or gkits . Wilderness grinders are a easy and efficient way for trainees and or new players to earn money to get a rank or gear. By reducing the spawn rates, it's making it harder for them to get a rank from play 2 win .
    Also imo just wilderness claims in general should get a mob spawn boost not a decrease in spawn rate, as it is easier to raid or claim and take for your own so it's more risky.

    I don't really understand why the update exists tbh
     
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  2. jakey2_00

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    Trainees can create a faction and place there spawners quite easily.
     
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  3. ulol60

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    Like traniees can build a base xD The poor They dont have fly THey dont hvae any gear (Jump Boots, Obsidianshiled) How easy was it to build ur first base when u was a traniee? 1. u probs dident even know how to create a fac 2. U Get 1k to start with y can buy 1 stack of obbywith that 3. I think u still get iron picks 4. U also gotta get buckets
     
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  4. Reddevils123

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    ye and trainees will have the money for all the defences
     
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  5. ypperin

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    I don't quite understand what you mean by this? Trainees are not limited in claiming a base nor placing spawners.

    Thankfully you can get ranks in game for free. Yes this update nerfs wilderness spawn rates but it doesn't stop them from spawning.

    There are always recruitment threads in each planet's section on the forums, when there's a very competitive map there's recruitment and roster threads under general. Trainees who find their way to the ts often find a place in a faction as well by people getting to know them.

    The community wanted us to encourage base building and this does just that. I'm not going to encourage people to keep unclaimed spawner vaults.

    The community wanted us to encourage base building and this does just that. I'm not going to encourage people to keep unclaimed spawner vaults.
     
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  6. Xell

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    Do you know that fly has not always been a thing on factions, and people built huges bases without it?
     
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  7. themanichanml

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    You can still use a wilderness grinder? If you want to play solo head to single player.
     
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    Flight is not something that's always been in factions, and they can grind out a rank if they really apply themselves.
     
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  9. ulol60

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    Still they dont have anything els except a hoe/carrot u get from the godly envoys xD
     
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    How? Its a 0.0001 chance to get 1 probs And how they make money? aww u gonna say go envoy but they envoys a ****. and if the traniee gets the lucky leg dp with maybe something good then the mobs will kill them. Or some other TOp rank gonna see the mobs and kill him
     
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    You can still grind the envoys and get money/ranks through that, as well as spawners.
     
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    Maybe your suggestion should be for the server to create other sources of income other than spawners (e.g make sugarcane more viable) so you can grind for money instead of "clicking" spawners.
     
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    THe chance u get something good that is worth more than 100k (100k=1 cave spider or 1.5 sheeps) is a low chance
     
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    You can still make wilderness vaults, it's just nerfed silly. And please don't just pull arbitrary numbers. oHfRIck grinded out all their top ranks on Monster. If you apply yourself you can do it.
     
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    Yes exactly 3 ways to make money on Cosmic 1. Grind 2. Envoy (low chance probs not all time u make profit and u will die alot) 3. Pvp and sell gear but then u have to get gear first and not die. and if u are a traniee u cant fix so u ded..
     
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    it seems like people are just pulling crap outta their butt to call this server p2w now lmao
     
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  17. MMorris14

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    1)I understand they can claim but if they don't have irl friends , they will have 20 power max or maybe 40 if they have a alt. Building a base with this amount is difficult as you want the same amount of defence on each side of your base
    2) Say the trainee is lucky enough to get a skeleton or zombie spawned from starter kit, the spawn rates if they have claims it would still be extremely low for 1 spawner so decreasing this by 60% would make it almost worthless. The money made from zombie spawners is extremely low.
    I understand that their is other methods such as mining or LMS but spawners is the easiest / was the easiest way.

    3) I agree that their is a page specifically for recruitment that becomes active on each reset,
    But On almost all serious recruitment threads, their is an option for "Rank:" and if it's a trainee they most likely would not accept as they don't have access to kits, wouldn't have any easy way to make money so most factions believe that it is inefficient for them to invite a trainee when they could possibly invite a high ranked player who can fly to corners or fly in nether for blazes or get ez experience.

    I understand your points for doing it, but I believe it has more negatives in comparison to positives.
     
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    Tried to apply 2 times. Make me admin/coder ill do it. Y say OfFrick Grinded their Top ranks. But 1. They got top ranks on other planets am guessing
     
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  19. MMorris14

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    OhFrick are actually one of the hardest working most knowledgeable factions in cosmic. They learn how to invest their irl money on a top rank in say a active server e.g. Monster , then sell god gear, grind, go to outpost, go all out to LMS. And by doing this, they have a higher chance to be able to buy a top rank near the end of a season, they can trade top rank for top, god for top rank or i game money for top rank.
     
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  20. ypperin

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    This is a team based game, not a solo game. I'm not going to cater to solo players when the game is meant to be played by teams.

    The community literally wanted us to encourage base building and this does just that.

    The community literally wanted us to encourage base building and this does just that.
     
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