Balance Patch

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  1. ExYZed

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    This is just some thoughts on the current state of raiding on cosmic. To start off lets compare the build time of a cannon. Due to cosmic banning printer cannons take an awfully long amount of time to build, and due to the piston limit, semi autoing has been limited. Its not impossible but holding many shots requires a cancerous sandcomp. The defences on cosmic allow check boxes and regen defences as we all know. I would say its fair to allow check boxes only if there were no regens as this would allow for people to go through a buffer much faster, but then people will be able to check much easier, or just afk the check box. Another alternative would be to scrap check boxes and keep the current method of raiding. Not to mention most players have ./near which helps negate raiding. Also whats with the bullshit that people can make defences outside their base during a raid. If you are going to do it like that you may as well let people have 30 chunks buffers. The bases are also are also obnoxiously big. If someone has a 30x30 base, and a full buffer, It can just be considered a 50 chunk buffer as the core will most likely be on the very end.

    The only reason cosmic has not died regarding raiding is due to midairs, however most people don't have access to these special types of cannons or they don't know how to use them. It seems as if cosmic is full of base bitches who make a base and never get raided due to the inbalance between cannons and bases. I believe the majority of the community just resort to pvping and getting better gear. I think it will be in cosmic's benefit to keep players engaged, as of now most the players are either afk alts or people pvping.
     
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  2. ImFireBall

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    I would like to see an update around raiding / based
     
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  3. ulol60

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    You can bypass checkbox. It takes 5min to build a cannon even the biggest sizes just get a crew that actully willing to help you build it. Bases are now max of 15x15 Size. Piston limit sucks.
     
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    I think making cannoning more efficient/faster would be better, however I haven’t thought too much about this
     
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  5. Miscarried

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    Base limits are stupid. I personally am against having a check box on my base but if another faction is willing to put their faith in a check box let them at it. Banning regens is completely delusional.
     
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    Removing regens is never going to happen because that's what made cosmic unique to all those other comp servers. I think checkboxes should be removed its complete BS that people can check 1 lamp at intervals of less than 10 min and be positive they aren't being raided. The only way to actually raid anyone "good" is to either midair them or midair them there's no in between unless they have an off time which any "good" faction wouldn't. There was a step forward with the stripped claims outside your buffer but raiding versus defending is still way too imbalanced.

    Not even 20min ago I was raiding and 1 guy was able to stop a cannon that 15 people were sand stacking because you can't shoot fast enough to go through it by the time he was finished patching his fking buffer. It's bullshit raiding is bullshit. I don't want to midair people I want to have fun with my faction.
     
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    Remove checkboxes!
     
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    They can’t just remove regents chief. They would have to wait for a reset to implement that rule
     
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  9. DragonSlayer0825

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    I wouldn't say checkboxes are the issue. What I would like to see maybe played with would be Redstone checkboxes.

    There is a reason why most servers without regens are dead even on cosmic with sand/piston and tnt limits you could raid a base without regens in 5 minutes. With that line of thought, autos are also a no go.

    The thing about cannoning you have to realize is what is going to best for a server is not going to always be best for the cannoner. It is better to cater toward the defender of a base than the person trying to raid it because, in the end, it means your planet will be more active as they have less of a chance of being successfully raided and I think we can all agree we like to have an active planet.
     
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    remove blocks! we don't need them
     
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    You are against it but u still have it tho... U are one of the leaders of your faction you really got no voting powers aginst Ypperin and Excluded?
     
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    He was talking about semi auto's not auto cannoning.
     
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    ya gl with raiding a base in 5 minutes, ull cause a reboot that last 10 minutes if ur going that fast oof

    piston limit/sand falling is the main thing that is holding back raiding on cosmic. Having sand fallin constantly will cause a server reboot withing 2 minutes of firing.

    It should be a challenge to raid bases on cosmic so there really is no need for crazy massive changes, just possibly enhance server performance so we dont have to deal with reboots
     
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  14. DragonSlayer0825

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    Was just talking in general terms there not addressing his post specifically.
     
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  15. ducky100189

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    Yes sir.
     
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    WOAH!!!!
     
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  17. ducky100189

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    Hello young sir
     
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  18. DragonSlayer0825

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    As I said 5 minutes is if there were no regens. Never had a server reboot because of my sand falling @ducky100189 have you?
     
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    And as i said, it would not be 5 minutes it would be a good ole 30 minutes because ur firing to fast and ur gonna cause a reboot

    ive had small ass sand comps doing that stuff, no not my cannon, so dont call me doo doo:)
     
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  20. ducky100189

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    Personally I never actually messed with any of my bigger sand comps on the live server, they are just stupidly big and im too lazy to make it. Lol
     
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